Episode 1: Part 1—International Law Today

Is the post-World War II international order being dismantled? Are we witnessing an unprecedented assault on the international order, or are current events just part of a natural ebb and flow of history?

In the inaugural episode, we sat down with top experts in international law for their assessments on where we stand today, how we got here, and the future of the international order. In Part I, guests Harold Koh, Oona Hathaway, and Dapo Akande give their assessments on the current historical moment, touching on Brexit, the role of China in the international order, the rise of populism, and hopes for the future.

Guests: Harold Koh, Professor of International Law at Yale Law School and former Legal Adviser of the U.S. Department of State; Oona Hathaway, Professor of International Law at Yale Law School and former Special Counsel to the General Counsel for National Security Law at the U.S. Department of Defense; and Dapo Akande, Professor of Public International Law and the University of Oxford.

About the Podcast

The Society's podcast International Law Behind the Headlines, hosted by Catherine Amirfar and Kal Raustiala, tackles, through interviews with today's top legal experts, the international legal issues dominating today's headlines. All episodes are available via iTunes, SoundCloud, and here.

Catherine Amirfar is a litigation partner at Debevoise & Plimpton LLP, Co-Chair of the firm's Public International Law Group and a member of the Management Committee. Her practice focuses on international commercial and treaty arbitration, international and complex commercial litigation, and public international law. Prior to rejoining Debevoise in 2016, Ms. Amirfar spent two years as the Counselor on International Law to the Legal Adviser at the U.S. Department of State and received the State Department's Superior Honor Award in recognition of her contributions to the Department. She is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, the American Law Institute, and the U.S. State Department Advisory Council on International Law (ACIL). In 2020 Ms. Amirfar was elected President of the Society, having previously served as Vice President from 2016 to 2018.

Kal Raustiala is professor at UCLA School of Law and the UCLA International Institute. Since 2007 he has served as director of the UCLA Ronald W. Burkle Center for International Relations, and from 2012-2015 as UCLA's Associate Vice Provost for International Studies. A graduate of Duke University, Professor Raustiala holds a J.D. from Harvard Law School and Ph.D. in political science from the University of California, San Diego. He has been a visiting professor at Harvard, Chicago, Columbia, Hebrew University in Jerusalem, National University of Singapore, and Princeton. A life member of the Council on Foreign Relations and a former member of the editorial board of the American Journal of International Law, from 2016-2018 he served as Vice President of the American Society of International Law.